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	<title>Comments on: Poisonous Smells, Yummy Smells, Frankenstein and the Tower of Babel</title>
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		<title>By: Christopher Kou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Kou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, should have added one more thing.  Phthalates are not used in order to save money.  They are used because they are superior fixatives for fragrances.  I might add that the synthetic fragrances used in place of essential oils because of cost have no negative studies attached to them that I am aware of.  Often such synthetics are simply synthesized versions, identical to the molecules that are found naturally in the essential oils.  They are not poisonous in any sense (unless the original molecule in the EO is poisonous as well).

Also, some EOs can be harmful in their naturally occurring form.  Bergamot EO, for example, causes acute photo sensitivity in skin, making one more susceptible to sunburn.  The synthetic reproduces the scent molecules without the phototoxic side effects.  In other words, essential oils like Bergamot are much more harmful to you and your babies than their synthetic equivalents.

I don&#039;t think we can equate the use of &quot;synthetics&quot; with Babel-like rebellion against God either.  After all, what is a &quot;synthetic&quot; anyway?  It&#039;s simply a produce of naturally occurring chemical reactions that are perfectly harmonious with the order of God&#039;s creation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, should have added one more thing.  Phthalates are not used in order to save money.  They are used because they are superior fixatives for fragrances.  I might add that the synthetic fragrances used in place of essential oils because of cost have no negative studies attached to them that I am aware of.  Often such synthetics are simply synthesized versions, identical to the molecules that are found naturally in the essential oils.  They are not poisonous in any sense (unless the original molecule in the EO is poisonous as well).</p>
<p>Also, some EOs can be harmful in their naturally occurring form.  Bergamot EO, for example, causes acute photo sensitivity in skin, making one more susceptible to sunburn.  The synthetic reproduces the scent molecules without the phototoxic side effects.  In other words, essential oils like Bergamot are much more harmful to you and your babies than their synthetic equivalents.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we can equate the use of &#8220;synthetics&#8221; with Babel-like rebellion against God either.  After all, what is a &#8220;synthetic&#8221; anyway?  It&#8217;s simply a produce of naturally occurring chemical reactions that are perfectly harmonious with the order of God&#8217;s creation.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Kou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Kou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve done some research on phthalates myself.  The truth is . . . if you want to find a study that labels ANYTHING has dangerous or harmful, you will be able to find it.

There remains only a single study of the &quot;effects&quot; of phthalates in people, using an extremely limited test sample of subjects, and concluded only that phthalates were present in the urine of these subjects.  The harmfulness of the substance wasn&#039;t drawn from the study, but was simply inferred.

Multiple other studies show phthalates to be completely benign.  Yes, they enter the system, but they are flushed right through and have no buildup in any part of the body.  That&#039;s why it&#039;s present in the urine.  It would be much more cause for alarm if phthalates were being absorbed but were NOT found in any natural waste products.

In this case, I think this study is a result of a bunch of pure naturalists with overactive imaginations and an axe to grind with the cosmetic and pharmaceutical industries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve done some research on phthalates myself.  The truth is . . . if you want to find a study that labels ANYTHING has dangerous or harmful, you will be able to find it.</p>
<p>There remains only a single study of the &#8220;effects&#8221; of phthalates in people, using an extremely limited test sample of subjects, and concluded only that phthalates were present in the urine of these subjects.  The harmfulness of the substance wasn&#8217;t drawn from the study, but was simply inferred.</p>
<p>Multiple other studies show phthalates to be completely benign.  Yes, they enter the system, but they are flushed right through and have no buildup in any part of the body.  That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s present in the urine.  It would be much more cause for alarm if phthalates were being absorbed but were NOT found in any natural waste products.</p>
<p>In this case, I think this study is a result of a bunch of pure naturalists with overactive imaginations and an axe to grind with the cosmetic and pharmaceutical industries.</p>
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		<title>By: Cousin Davy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cousin Davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a pretty good book out there on the effect of corn subsidies on our food and what we eat, called &quot;The Omnivore&#039;s Dilemma.&quot; Worth a read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a pretty good book out there on the effect of corn subsidies on our food and what we eat, called &#8220;The Omnivore&#8217;s Dilemma.&#8221; Worth a read.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Winckler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Winckler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 03:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plastics are frequently made with phthalates. That was kind of my point.

In all honesty, no offense was (or is) intended, but when you start talking generally about how synthetic products are man&#039;s evil attempt to one-up God, you are being silly. I thought to reply in kind.

Aside from that, the entire worry rests (as far as I can tell, granting that I didn&#039;t research the issue at all beyond the first two pages of Google) on a single study which, if true, only demonstrates the presence of phthalates (a frequent component of plastics, hence my satire) in baby urine. For every link you can dig up claiming that phthalates are the next great threat to civilization, I can dig one up claiming the opposite, and both of them will claim some &quot;indisputable evidence&quot; to support their side. Such is the nature of sensationalist medicine and activism, and that&#039;s why neither is to be particularly trusted. You say the pro-phthalates are corporate shills, I say the anti-phthalates are granola-bar hippie freaks. Tempers flare. Dirt is scuffed up in the opponents&#039; general direction. A certain steely squint appears in the eye. Promising friendships are mercilessly snuffed out by callous individuals on blogs! The old story.

Seriously, if you want to be worried about stuff on this level, don&#039;t let me throw a wet blanket on the party. There are certainly plenty of opportunities in the world today, and plenty of people who will help it along. Personally, if I get in the mood to worry about something, I&#039;ll probably just fall back on the asbestos pipe insulation in the basement. Or my phthalate-infested CPVC/PEX water supply system, pumping water out onto my phthalate-contaminated vinyl shower curtain. Or sheesh, forget that! Around here you can worry about single-shelled tanks and cesium in the water supply! Yes, I really am just that shallow and apathetic. All is vanity.

Getting back to the original point, forgive my inability to pass up the opportunity for a witty and cynical remark. It&#039;s a fault of mine.

Cordially, and in only the best of humor,

Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plastics are frequently made with phthalates. That was kind of my point.</p>
<p>In all honesty, no offense was (or is) intended, but when you start talking generally about how synthetic products are man&#8217;s evil attempt to one-up God, you are being silly. I thought to reply in kind.</p>
<p>Aside from that, the entire worry rests (as far as I can tell, granting that I didn&#8217;t research the issue at all beyond the first two pages of Google) on a single study which, if true, only demonstrates the presence of phthalates (a frequent component of plastics, hence my satire) in baby urine. For every link you can dig up claiming that phthalates are the next great threat to civilization, I can dig one up claiming the opposite, and both of them will claim some &#8220;indisputable evidence&#8221; to support their side. Such is the nature of sensationalist medicine and activism, and that&#8217;s why neither is to be particularly trusted. You say the pro-phthalates are corporate shills, I say the anti-phthalates are granola-bar hippie freaks. Tempers flare. Dirt is scuffed up in the opponents&#8217; general direction. A certain steely squint appears in the eye. Promising friendships are mercilessly snuffed out by callous individuals on blogs! The old story.</p>
<p>Seriously, if you want to be worried about stuff on this level, don&#8217;t let me throw a wet blanket on the party. There are certainly plenty of opportunities in the world today, and plenty of people who will help it along. Personally, if I get in the mood to worry about something, I&#8217;ll probably just fall back on the asbestos pipe insulation in the basement. Or my phthalate-infested CPVC/PEX water supply system, pumping water out onto my phthalate-contaminated vinyl shower curtain. Or sheesh, forget that! Around here you can worry about single-shelled tanks and cesium in the water supply! Yes, I really am just that shallow and apathetic. All is vanity.</p>
<p>Getting back to the original point, forgive my inability to pass up the opportunity for a witty and cynical remark. It&#8217;s a fault of mine.</p>
<p>Cordially, and in only the best of humor,</p>
<p>Matt</p>
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		<title>By: Emeth Hesed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emeth Hesed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Matt. Way to make an argument and make friends!

Plastics aren&#039;t necessarily bad. Phthalates are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Matt. Way to make an argument and make friends!</p>
<p>Plastics aren&#8217;t necessarily bad. Phthalates are.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Winckler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Winckler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; The phthalates with all their poisons remind me of Frankenstein and the Tower of Babel. Instead of remembering that we are God’s image and worshipping Him with what He gave us, men try to make their own version and claim the glory for themselves to their own destruction … and ours.

Har?

I mean...*yeah*. Darn&#039; scientists trying to steal the glory. I wish they&#039;d stop making plastic, too. Don&#039;t they know that&#039;s what God made wood for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; The phthalates with all their poisons remind me of Frankenstein and the Tower of Babel. Instead of remembering that we are God’s image and worshipping Him with what He gave us, men try to make their own version and claim the glory for themselves to their own destruction … and ours.</p>
<p>Har?</p>
<p>I mean&#8230;*yeah*. Darn&#8217; scientists trying to steal the glory. I wish they&#8217;d stop making plastic, too. Don&#8217;t they know that&#8217;s what God made wood for?</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fast food is definitely not cheap. I think what the wealthy are able to afford as opposed to the middle class and poor is ready made, fast and convenient foods that contain fresh and whole foods. Now purchasing the ingredients yourself and putting together the food on your own is at least as cheap if not more as the fast food alternative but it lacks the convenience of a drive through. And for Americans where typically both parents are working and they&#039;ve got a 30 minute lunch or an hour at the most they are going to run and grab something because they didn&#039;t spend all night putting something fresh and healthy together. And their children are in daycare getting the &quot;healthy&quot; recommended foods that the state regulates (which is actually quite appallingly not healthy foods) and will soon move on to public school and eat public school lunches which really aren&#039;t any better than eating at a local fast food chain. Or they will bring a sack lunch of peanut butter with hydrogenated oils and corn syrup and add some dyed jelly with more corn syrup on their bleached white bread and chug that down with a ultra pasteurized (and dyed) chocolate milk which will go nicely with their processed cookies (with corn syrup and dyes) and if their lucky their mom will have thrown in some carrot sticks, which hopefully the child will eat considering the carrots don&#039;t contain corn syrup. 

I&#039;m not sure what our country should do to turn this around. I&#039;m all for capitalism but frankly I wish that fast food was made to be more cost prohibitive and that our food system was regulated  to ban or minimize the amount of corn syrup and artificial ingredients allowed in food. 

But really it doesn&#039;t matter because the general American public doesn&#039;t care. They don&#039;t care what is in their food as long as it tastes good. The rest of us in the minority will continue running up and down the internet streets and posting to our blogs about the dangers of this and that and everyone will smile and nod or roll their eyes and continue about their typical American lives.

How&#039;s that for pessimism. 

P.S. I hate phthalates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fast food is definitely not cheap. I think what the wealthy are able to afford as opposed to the middle class and poor is ready made, fast and convenient foods that contain fresh and whole foods. Now purchasing the ingredients yourself and putting together the food on your own is at least as cheap if not more as the fast food alternative but it lacks the convenience of a drive through. And for Americans where typically both parents are working and they&#8217;ve got a 30 minute lunch or an hour at the most they are going to run and grab something because they didn&#8217;t spend all night putting something fresh and healthy together. And their children are in daycare getting the &#8220;healthy&#8221; recommended foods that the state regulates (which is actually quite appallingly not healthy foods) and will soon move on to public school and eat public school lunches which really aren&#8217;t any better than eating at a local fast food chain. Or they will bring a sack lunch of peanut butter with hydrogenated oils and corn syrup and add some dyed jelly with more corn syrup on their bleached white bread and chug that down with a ultra pasteurized (and dyed) chocolate milk which will go nicely with their processed cookies (with corn syrup and dyes) and if their lucky their mom will have thrown in some carrot sticks, which hopefully the child will eat considering the carrots don&#8217;t contain corn syrup. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what our country should do to turn this around. I&#8217;m all for capitalism but frankly I wish that fast food was made to be more cost prohibitive and that our food system was regulated  to ban or minimize the amount of corn syrup and artificial ingredients allowed in food. </p>
<p>But really it doesn&#8217;t matter because the general American public doesn&#8217;t care. They don&#8217;t care what is in their food as long as it tastes good. The rest of us in the minority will continue running up and down the internet streets and posting to our blogs about the dangers of this and that and everyone will smile and nod or roll their eyes and continue about their typical American lives.</p>
<p>How&#8217;s that for pessimism. </p>
<p>P.S. I hate phthalates.</p>
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		<title>By: Emeth Hesed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emeth Hesed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seth: Obesity does seem to be a much bigger problem among the poor and middle class than the rich, but nonetheless, there is an &quot;obesity epidemic&quot; in America. I don&#039;t know about fast food being cheap. It costs me more money to buy fast food than to go to the grocery store and cook a &quot;real&quot; meal.

Dawn: I used to like Bath and Bodyworks a lot and I still like some of their fragrances, but Lush is so totally worth it. It&#039;s not like I take long luxurious baths every day anyway ... I think I have used on average 2 bath bombs a year since I got married. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seth: Obesity does seem to be a much bigger problem among the poor and middle class than the rich, but nonetheless, there is an &#8220;obesity epidemic&#8221; in America. I don&#8217;t know about fast food being cheap. It costs me more money to buy fast food than to go to the grocery store and cook a &#8220;real&#8221; meal.</p>
<p>Dawn: I used to like Bath and Bodyworks a lot and I still like some of their fragrances, but Lush is so totally worth it. It&#8217;s not like I take long luxurious baths every day anyway &#8230; I think I have used on average 2 bath bombs a year since I got married. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooh, I&#039;ve never heard of Lush, but I looked at the website and now I&#039;m all intrigued. Apparently we have one in Orlando, but it&#039;s on the other side of town - probably a good thing since their stuff is flipping expensive. Considering how rarely I have ever actually /used up/ a container of lotion/wash/whatever from Bath &amp; Bodyworks or some such, though, I&#039;d probably still get my money&#039;s worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh, I&#8217;ve never heard of Lush, but I looked at the website and now I&#8217;m all intrigued. Apparently we have one in Orlando, but it&#8217;s on the other side of town &#8211; probably a good thing since their stuff is flipping expensive. Considering how rarely I have ever actually /used up/ a container of lotion/wash/whatever from Bath &amp; Bodyworks or some such, though, I&#8217;d probably still get my money&#8217;s worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Witmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Witmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm . . . phthalates . . . now there&#039;s a Satanic consonant cluster if I ever heard one. Compounds so dangerous, just saying them gives you a speech impediment.</description>
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